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Tuesday, December 1st, 2020 1:58 PM

Integration of a Enterprise Data Model into Collibra

We are looking at integrating our Enterprise Data Model into Collibra. We do not have a tool like Erwin to integrate out-of-the-box. We use Enterprise Architect (EA) so it might be an API insert into Collbira,. or manually ‘mimicing’ and setting up the data model in Collibra. Anybody seen or done this themselves that can provide tips, tricks, how-to’s or advice?

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4 years ago

Hi Manrich - I am interested if you got any answers on this or were able to figure out an approach. I was just about to post the same question . I thought of a similar approach to yours, or the possibility of parsing an XMI file via an integration. However interested if you have made any progress.

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Hi Spencer, it does seem like that will be our approach, I’d obviously be keen to see how other clients have done it. Have you progressed at all? It’s something we’re looking to pull in March/April this year, we can chat in more detail with some other SMEs as well offline?

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4 years ago

Here’s an example with Solidatus: https://marketplace.collibra.com/listings/solidatus-collibra-integration/
I think there are also integration with tools such as Idera.

Importing from collibra with the import API or exporting through the outputmodule are easy and efficient. It’s quite simple to map an xml or json file (through a static file, REST API or WS) with integration tools (Mulesoft, etc.) or custom scripting (Python, javascript, etc.)

4 years ago

Hello Manrich, i do not have an answer but I do have same objective in 2021. Currently trying to figure out what to do / how to define application integration layer in Collibra data model with drill down to more details. We have large number of interfaces and I dont think we will be able to to get auto discovery / lineage to see through all these mappings, but they are extremely important for us to evaluate impact of metadata changes. Have you done any of these in Collibra ?

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Hi Alexander, yes we have, but to an extent. We are still maturing the Metadata framework and embedding in all of the processes. Saying that, we have a fully fledged report catalog by scanning PowerBI reports with Manta and our main data warehouse which feeds these reports with Manta. So we can do proper impact analysis of any data changes to see what the impact would be downstream. We’re moving to cloud, so our landscape is changing somewhat and we are now looking to mature the data strategy by integrating with data quality tech and the Enterprise Data model, hence my question above, I’m just not too sure how we’re gonna use Collibra for the data model representation I haven’t seen it

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4 years ago

I think this is a critical topic…thanks for starting the conversation @manrich.kotze.

So the summary conclusions are:

  • organizations need a Conceptual (Subject Area Model, Conceptual Data Model), Logical (3rd Normal Form and application specific) , and Physical Model (view of physical objects) to understand the Enterprise Information Model
  • Collibra is great at storing the individual metadata objects but not so for creating a model
  • the Logical and Conceptual layers need to be created “manually” via collaboration between your 'Technical Data Steward" or “Data Custodian” (i.e. the IT person) and the Business Steward (business SME).
    - understanding Collibra is working some automation based on profiling results but lets leave that out for now.
  • linking the Logical layer (Entity.Attribute) to the Collibra business layer (conceptual and Business Terms where applicable) is a manual effort carried out by the Business Steward with support from the Data Custodian
  • linking the Logical Layer (Entity.Attribute) to the physical layer (Tables.Column) can be done in any data modeling tool … they all are able to reverse engineer a physical database with referential integrity into a logical data model.

So the question is…has anyone uploaded the physical and logical model from an ERD / data modeling tool into collibra Data Entity.Data Attribute logical structures and the Table.Column physical structures INCLUDING the link between the two (i.e. this table is the physical implementation of that entity; attributes -> columns; and foreign keys to collibra’s foreign key model)?

If so, what was the modeling tool? ERWin , Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler (free), …

cc: @frank.thomas.enbridge.com

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4 years ago

We will be doing this manually first, and looking at automating the updating. We don’t have one of these ‘established’ data modelling tools, but will look to update manually, driven through processes and people.

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4 years ago

Any updates on the question of importing an ERD? Even if there is no automation for linking logical models to conceptual and physical models, a mechanism to get an ERD into a Collibra logical model would be a big help in gaining Engineering support for using Collibra.

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Thanks Arthur, do re-establish where we are now. We are manually linking up the logical layer to the physical layer. We have established an operating model and process for this. We will be integrating ER studio with Collibra from Feb next year, which we will look at the automation effort of updating the EDM in Collibra.

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Haven’t seen this, but will be looking into it and using it for sure! thank you so much

3 years ago

This solution from Hackolade is now available to publish data models including Entity Relationship Diagrams to Collibra. More information can also be found here.

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This looks amazing, thanks for sharing! @hackolade
I’ll probably give it a go in the next few weeks, it looks like a very good solution to a lot of problems.

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3 years ago

Does anyone have a solution for ingesting Erwin models?

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I m too interested in this answer

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Hi Mudassar, I found a simple way in Erwin to generate the CSV file to import into Collibra. Look at this post. https://datacitizens.collibra.com/forum/t/convert-erwin-model-into-csv-for-import-into-collibra-conceptual-logical-model/1571

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Thanks so it appears we need to setup Erwin server and then query(
https://bookshelf.erwin.com/bookshelf/public_html/2021R1/Content/User%20Guides/erwin%20Help/The_Query_Tool.html)
and get the results from the Client into CSV .

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3 years ago

Does anyone have a solution for integrating ER studio data models ?

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Hi Gilbin
We have done our first syncs of data models (logical layer - i.e. entities/attributes) into Collibra in non-production. It does sync in the entities and attributes and its relationship into a data model. It also includes fields like descriptions and relationship to a business term for example. However, we are struggling with the relationships between attributes for referential integrity this is our last step.

The outstanding issue is still the linking of logical layer to physical layer, since the physical layer is scanned by Collibra. One has to manually link the 2, and it is quite simple in Collibra using the ‘stewardship’ module.

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Thanks Manrich !
do you have any referral documents or links ?

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Hello Manrich,
Your original problem was to integrate SparxEA with Collibra.
I am working at ICA in Sweden and we have the same problem.

Is above the description of your achievements with that problem?
Did you manage this by parsing XMI files into csv or how did you do that?

I also find some links where some persons have used SQL to extract metadata from SparxEA.
That seems a bit like hack. I’ve done similar with ERwin, but that was not a hack.

If you have anything to share to us, please let me know.
We are stuck with this problem.

regards
Teemu

Hi Manrich,

Nice to read about your positive experience of integrating data models from ER Studio to Collibra!

We are doing the same on a new project, but also have some questions on the referential integrity. Did you somehow manage to push foreign key information from the logical models in ER Studio to the logical models in Collibra?

Kind regards,
Anthony

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2 years ago

Hi All,
what all roles does the integration account require for migrating the models to Collibra from ER studio

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2 years ago

ER/Studio has a very tight integration with Collibra nowadays. You can push data models and their mappings to business terms to the Collibra catalog. Get your data architects helping out populating the catalog.

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